What they are not telling us?

[Richard]

"In my mind, there is no question that they're out there. My Career is well established. My texts books are required reading in all the major capitals on planet earth. If you want to become a physist to learn about the unified feild therory-you read my books. Therefore, I'm in a position to say: Yes- Most likely they're out their, perhaps even visted, perhaps on our moon. - ABC News Quote --
-- Professor Michio Kaku Author of Theoretical Physics UNY

"I've been convinced for a long time that the flying saucers are real and interplanetary. Another words we are being watched by beings from outer space."
--Albert M. Chop, deputy public relations director, National Aeronautics and Space Administration,(NASA) and former United States Air Force spokesman for Project Blue Book.

"When the long awaited solution to the UFO problem comes, I believe that it will prove to be not merely the next small step in the march of science, but a mighty and totally unexpected quantum leap." "We had a job to do, whether right or wrong, to keep the public from getting excited"
--Dr.J Allen Hynek, Director US Air Force´s project Blue Book as a scientific consultant, astronomer, investigator and analysis.

"Of course it is possible that UFO's really do contain aliens as many people believe, and the Government is hushing it up."
--Professor Stephen Hawking

"Given the millions of billions of Earth-like planets, life elsewhere in the Universe without a doubt, does exist. In the vastness of the Universe we are not alone."
--The Bible According to Albert Einstein

"It is my thesis that flying saucers are real and that they are space ships from another solar system. There is no doubt in my mind that these objects are interplanetary craft of some sort. I and my colleagues are confident that they do not originate in our solar system."
--Dr. Herman Oberth (The father of modern rockerty)

"I am completely convinced that UFOs have an out-of-world basis."
--Dr. Walther Riedel (Once chief designer and research director at the German rocket center in Peenemunde)

"The possibility of reduced-time interstellar travel either by advanced extraterrestrial civilizations at present or ourselves in the future, is not fundamentally constrained by physical principles."
-- Dr. Harold Puthoff (Director, Institute for advanced studies at Austin, Author of fundamentals of Quantum Electronics)

The least improbable explanation is that these things are artificial and controlled ... My opinion for some time has been that they have an extraterrestrial origin."
--Dr. Maurice Biot (leading aerodynamicists and mathematical physicist)

"The evidence is overwhelming that Planet Earth is being visited by intelligently controlled extraterrestrial spacecraft. In other words, SOME UFOs are alien spacecraft. Most are not. It's clear from the Opinion Polls and my own experience, that indeed most people accept the notion that SOME UFOs are alien spacecraft. The greater the education, the MORE likely to accept this proposition"
-- Stanton Friedman Defense Contractor Nuclear Physicist

"Extraterrestrial contact is a real phenomenon. The Vatican is receiving much information about extraterrestrials and their contacts with humans from its Nuncios (embassies) in various countries, such as Mexico, Chile and Venezuela."
-- Monsignor Corrado Balducci As stated 5 different times on Italian TV** (Vatican theologian insider close to the Pope,Monsignor Balducci said that he is on a Vatican commission looking into extraterrestrial encounters, and how to cope with the emerging general realization of extraterrestrial contact.)

"We must insist upon full access to disks recovered. For instance, in the La case the Army grabbed it and would not let us have it for cursory examination."
--J Edgar Hoover

"I am convinced that these ojects do exist and that they are not manufactured by any nations on earth"
--Air Chief Marshal Lord Dowding (Commander-in-chief, Royal Air Force Fighter Command) (3) An outpouring of UFO reports which forces response in high places, particularly when unknowns virtually blitzed the U.S. capitol in Washington, D.C. An Air Force intelligence analysis also concluded that UFOs were interplanetary spaceships. (1952)

"The UFO phenomenon being reported is something real and not visionary or fictitious"
--General Nathan Twining Chairman, Joint chiefs of staff, 1955-1958

"With control of the universe at stake, a crash program is imperative.We produced the A-bomb, under the huge Manhattan Project, in an amazingly short time. The needs, the urgency today are even greater. The Air Force should end UFO secrecy, give the facts to scientists,the public, to Congress. Once the people realize the truth, they would back, even demand a crash program...for this is one race we dare not lose."
--Major Donald E Keyhoe USMC, Director NICAP 1953

"Unknown objects are operating under intelligent control... It is imperative that we learn where UFOs come from and what their purpose is. I can tell you, behind the scenes, high ranking military officers are soberly concerned about the UFOs"
--Admiral Roscoe Hillenkoetter (Former director of the Central Intelligence Agency)

"The possibility of reduced-time interstellar travel either by advanced extraterrestrial civilizations at present or ourselves in the future, is not fundamentally constrained by physical principles."
-- Dr. Harold Puthoff (Director, Institute for advanced studies at Austin, Author of fundamentals of Quantum Electronics)

An astonishing statement by Gen. Douglas MacArthur that, "...the next war will be an interplanetary war. The nations of the earth must someday make a common front against attack by people from other planets. The politics of the future will be cosmic, or interplanetary" (1955)

Truman climbs on board: "I can assure you that flying saucers, given that they exist, are not constructed by any power on earth"
--President Harry S. Truman

"The US Airforce assures me that UFO's pose no threat to National Security.."
--President John F Kennedy

I feel that the Air Force has not been giving out all the available information on the Unidentified Flying Objects. You cannot disregard so many unimpeachable sources."
-- John W. McCormack, Speaker of the House of Representatives of the United States. January (1965)

[Virginia]

Aliens have been helping the human race since day 1. May even be the missing link. If you watch a tv show Ancient Aliens you will see compelling evidence that aliens helped build the pyramids and even drawings and etchings from all over the world depict flying airplanes, helicopters, submarines as long as 6,000 yrs ago.

Before I started watching this tv show I thought UFO's started appearing in 1947 in Rosswell, NM but there is evidence going way back in history.

Our Government will never admit to UFO;s until they actually land on the White House lawn and even then will still lie.

[Dave]

I totally agree that they have been here since day 1

They have been interacting with humanity since Genesis 3:1
They have been at war with humaity since Genesis 3:15
They esculated the war in Genesis 6:1-4
They were banished from the surface of planet earth in Genesis 7:4
"For it was on account of these three things (fornication, uncleanness, and injustice) that the flood was on the earth, since due to fornication that the Watchers had illicit intercourse - apart from their mandate of their authority - with women. They Fathered Nephillium as sons... Jubilees 7:20-22" (delirumsrealm.com/delirium/article view)

Except - 10% of them were allowed to continue to inteact with humanity:
" ... 'Lord creator, leave some of them before me; let them listen to me and do everything that I tell them, because if none of them is left for me I shall not be able to exorcizes the authority of my will among mankind. For they are meant for the destroying and misleading before my punishment because the evil of mankind is great.' Then God said that a tenth of them should be left before him, while He would make nine parts descend to the place of judgment. - Jubilees 10:8-9" (delirumsrealm.com/delirium/article view)

Gen 6:4 "The Nephillium were on the earth in those days - and also afterward ..."

They make our hearts heavy that we may not pay attention and may not see. So we loose the reflection of the Divine Light within us ... The Archons burden the soul, attracting us to works of evil, and pull us down into oblivion, make us forget who we are. (The Apocrypha of John II 22: 14-10, though 27-20.)" (metahistory.org/Gnostic Catechism)

The Second Treatise of the Great Seth, another text of gnostic origin, "... explains how the Archons induce a false plan of salvation into the human mind, a counterfeit of the true plan of self-liberation we can take by developing our innate potential of Nous, 'divine-intelligence.'" the script goes on to say, "... that 'the doctrine of Aliens' is a great deception upon the human soul." (metahistory.org/ExtrarerrestrialRelioion.php)

Yes these Aliens (not born of this world) are here - have always been here - are interacting with humanity - their help might seam nice, or even life saving, but their motives are ultimately EVIL

The more people believe in little green men from outerspace - the less likely they are to acknowledge evil little demons from innerspace. This is their plan. The thoughts and conversations are of space men - not spiritual warfare! You cannot defend yourself from something, or someone, you don't recognise as attacking you.

Remember the words of the ancient Chinese warrior Sun Tzu - "Know your enemy!"

[Virginia]

Stephen Hawkings does not think we should draw attention to earth. He feels SETI is making a hugh mistake by encouraging signs from Aliens, but if they can travel thru space with no problems, then they already know who we are and where we are.

We may even be their product. Where does the expression "LITTLE GREEN MEN' come from? Is it because our skin has a blue-green look? Why this fascination with Mars. Just because I believe in Aliens and UFO's does not mean there is no God. God and Aliens are like comparing two entirally different things. Could God have created other worlds, of course.

[Richard]

From wikipedia:

The term "Little Green Men" was first used in "... 1899, in the Atlanta Constitution, about a little, green-skinned alien, in a tale called Green Boy From Hurrah, "Hurrah" being another planet, perhaps Mars. Edgar Rice Burroughs referred to the "green men of Mars" and "green Martian women" in his first 1912 science fiction novel A Princess of Mars, though at 10 to 12 feet tall, they were hardly "little."

Gateshead Alien abduction case - Robert Hall experienced aliens visiting his street in 1940 the "Gateshead Grey" event - which was reported in local newspapers. Hall described them as "little grey men" and it has been suggested the term little "green men" came from this.

However the first use of the specific phrase "little green man" in reference to extraterrestrials that Aubeck found dates to 1908 in the Daily Kennebec Journal (Augusta, Maine), in this case the aliens again being Martians.

In 1910 (or 1915), a "little green man" was allegedly captured from his crashed spaceship in Puglia, Italy.

Green aliens soon came to commonly portray extraterrestrials and adorned the covers of many of the 1920s to 1950s science fiction pulp magazines with pictures of Buck Rogers and Flash Gordon battling green alien monsters."


I am not sure what you are saying Virginia. "Just because I believe in Aliens and UFO's does not mean there is no God. God and Aliens are like comparing two entirely different things. Could God have created other worlds, of course."

If God created the all - then aliens are within His dominion
If God created us - then we are within His dominion

Two entirely different things? Hmmmmmm?

I could make the argument to you that electricity and the radio are two entirely different things.
One is an energy, a non-thing, invisible. The other made of matter, wire, transistors, dials, and knobs.
Two entirely different things - right?

Turn a radio off, who cares, smash it, burn it, bury it in the ground and forget all about it.
But if you turn the electricity off, all the radios everywhere stop!

We humans have our theology and since the very beginning of our creation we have been seeking our connection to the all and its creator.
Life, everywhere and anywhere within the all (the entire universe + other dimensions of reality, spirit worlds, afterlife, heavens), would also, since the very beginning of their creation have been seeking their connection to the all and its creator.

So here we are - two independent radios, from two different locations, created/powered/supplied by the one source Electricity. One radio plays here, while the other radio plays light years away. Possibly never knowing one another. But if they come close together - FEEDBACK - STATIC - possibly my station overriding your station, conflict, problems, interference.

Why?

Regardless of how you see humanity, we are easily described as a species - a spiritual enough creature that has caused a religious pursuit to seek our creator and better understand our connection and relationship to.

Now I ask you to seek out the video posted on in this forum about a Russian UFO expert, Valery Uvarov. He clearly says, 'the aliens study us because they are searching for their creator and knowledge to better understand everything (the all).'

Aliens are also a spiritual enough creatures that has caused a religious pursuit to seek their creator and better understand their connection and relationship to.

Their ideas of a moral and ethical pursuit of the truth is not the same as ours. If you believe in science only, we are like bugs to them for study / dissect / and torment. If you read the scripture you will see that they are jealous of us and hate us. They deliberately work against our spiritual growth. It is the definition of their religious pursuit according to scripture.

Now add to your UFO belief system the fact that according to many UFO experts (example: Jaques Vallee) say at least some of these UFO occurrences are of a transdimensional which means multidimensional origin. Visitors from other realms of existence, heavens, spirit realm. Suddenly your UFO reality become much more complicated.

Currently, the only reference we have to these other dimensions of reality is a religious one and again we are back to a religious pursuit to seek their creator and better understand their connection and relationship to.

So, here we are, humans on planet earth at the center (of our own) religious reality; which is actually a crossroads of several different religious realities, several different radios all powered by the same electricity and the static of that encounter results in both religious revelation, resulting in religious extremism, visions, and prophesies; as well as, secular evidence, sightings, abductions, crop circles, conspiracy theories, agreements with governments.

God and Aliens are NOT two entirely different things.
Aliens are only pawns within the all. Just as you and I are pawns within the all.

If it is hard for you to see aliens as foot soldiers in the galactic religious war, then explain why 2.2 billion Muslims see you as a foot soldier of "The Evil" and the Vatican claims you as a foot soldier on the side of "The Good."

[Virginia]

In 2008 the Vatican said they believe in life on other planets (aliens). Are they trying to be ahead od the curve or dothey know something that they are hinting at?

Is it possible the aliens told our gov to cover-up their existance until the aliens are ready to reveal themselves.

Could our gov continue to lie to us in order to PROTECT us?

Let me Ponder That for a minute. HMMMMMMMM----NAW.

[Dave]

This is the link to Valery Uvarov comments from Russia:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2nLglJ0YVg

This video got a lot of criticism in the comment at youtube.

Mostly to the fact that this Russian UFO researcher knows to much detail. So much detail that he must me an alien himself But, I ask, is he saying anything any more bizarre than Whitney Strieberg, David Ike, John Leer, or the many others that have opinions on the subject.The best way to discredit the truth, is to discredit the author - crazy people cannot be correct about anything.

Let me ask you Richard - how do you see these extraterrestrials playing a role in the Christian end-time saga?

[Dave]

Apr 6, 2013 13:54:36 GMT -5 Virginia said:

Is it possible the aliens told our gov to cover-up their existance until the aliens are ready to reveal themselves.

Could our gov continue to lie to us in order to PROTECT us?

Let me Ponder That for a minute. HMMMMMMMM----NAW.

To protect us - I agree -- Naw.

To protect their hold on control, to protect their wealth, position, and family -- Yaw -- they would of course sellout to the stronger force to end up on the winning side. Just as the CIA bribes its way to influence other governments, or offering 10 million dollar rewards for people like Osama Bin Laudin.

The promise of technology / wealth / power always win sympathizers.

Better to reign in hell, than only serve in heaven.

[Richard]

You missed saying the most obvious conclusion: collaboration.

End times?

Rev 9:1 And the fifth messenger did sound, and I saw a star out of the heaven having fallen to the earth, and there was given to it the key of the pit of the abyss,
Rev 9:2 and he did open the pit of the abyss, and there came up a smoke out of the pit as smoke of a great furnace, and darkened was the sun and the air, from the smoke of the pit.
Rev 9:3 And out of the smoke came forth locusts to the earth, and there was given to them authority, as scorpions of the earth have authority,

Rev 9:14 Saying to the sixth angel which had the trumpet, Loose the four angels which are bound in the great river Euphrates.
Rev 9:15 And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the third part of men.

Rev 12:7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
Rev 12:8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
Rev 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

Rev 16:12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.
Rev 16:13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
Rev 16:14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, ...

Now watch -- www.youtube.com/watch?v=--aigbbwCNs

There is an upcoming alien invasion

I see this as only a fulfilment of prophesy. Lets say the intent of these aliens is to hurt humanity / use humanity / and use us and our planet for their own resources be it DNA or gold. To keep us from seeing the universe as a spiritual playground; but rather a science fiction event.

Would you land and engage the population in hand to hand combat? No, you would lose personal in the process. If I were the strategic planner for them.

I would start slowly by damaging, diluting and polluting the religious hard line and replace it with something more inviting, something more secular. In the past century we have gone from a strong family centered society where The Ten Commandments command to a self centered broken family government dependent society.

Next comes engaging humanity in projects that interfere with humanities spiritual growth and awakening. Things like: war, hate, TV, sports, drugs, sex, and porn.

I would find COLLABORATORS within the human population, by giving them power, fame, power, authority and place them at the highest levels of the world governments.

With those collaborators, I would work to drive humanity into the awaiting arms of those collaborators and allow their human collaborators to destroy humanity for them, as they stand back out of harms way. How do they do this? By being seen as "little green men" giving humanity an enemy to rally against. Then in a false flag invasion of earth, the population will run to the awaiting arms of their earthy owners / masters / governments for protection; which is only a well planned trap!

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[Dave]

I agree totally - collaborators of all types

$$$$$$$ leading to the bankers of the world, followed closely by the politicians of the world and the world's elite, next comes Hollywood and the entire mega-media-corp --- the rest of us --- media zombies being conditioned and molded.

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."
Edmund Burke, Irish orator, philosopher, & politician (1729 - 1797)

[Virginia]

I saw a tv show Sunday about our government preparing for a space battle with aliens. Not all aliens are friendly and they are fighting amongst each other. Our military tried to set up a base on the moon to try to head off the attacks coming to earth but we found the aliens had already set up their base there. Now we are looking at Mars but taking too long.

The Vatican knows something is coming and that is the reason they continue to talk about aliens and UFO's, but say aliens and beings on other planets is all part of God's plan. The Vatican knows when the war breaks out, they will say they knew it was coming and the right place for salvation is the Catholic church. They estimate that the Catholic church will grow by millions over night because they were the informed church ahead of all the rest.

They say "It is God's plan for the Vatican to have knowledge about aliens and the coming war."

[Dave]

Ponder this:

I have recently heard he suggestion that the aliens are playing a good cop / bad cop game. One group play bad cop so that when the others show up to help us against these bad aliens we will turn to them as friends.

Playing us like a Fidel.

the human race seems to be a gluten for manipulation.