Post by Dave on Aug 31, 2013 2:38:06 GMT -5
Steve asked,
If you believe that the singularity is real; then please explain what compressed all the nothingness into the singularity, and how nothingness can have density, and what this singularity existed in, as space did not exist. Please show me the empirical evidence for this belief.
I am a multidimensionalist.
No one has ever suggested that reality began out of nothingness. Something was not created from nothing. God fattened what was already there – himself.
And no one ever suggested that it was compressed into the original singularity. Quite the opposite, the singularity spread Himself out.
Where was this singularity, space, time, wherever – I do not care because - Job 36:26 (NIV) How great is God, beyond our understanding! It is beyond our understanding. Scriptures story begins with God and moves forward. So do I.
I don’t know if you can call it empirical, but there is certainly a preponderance of evidence suggesting 10 dimensions of space and one of time. The most ancient text on this planet, the Book of Enoch, tells of 10 heavens. The Zohar speaks of 10 heavens in one section and of 10 celestial spheres in another. The Apostle Paul writes of 10 heavens. The most current science theory, super-string, the only science that accurately predicts the behavior of sub-atomic particles in a super collider, suggests 10 dimensions.
From the Jewish Kabbalah, THE BOOK OF CREATION 1:2. “Ten are the numbers, as are the Sephiroth, (the 10 attributes/emanations in Kabbalah through which God created the world and/or manifests Himself) …(talks about the 22 letters of the Hebrew alphabet) 3. The ten numbers formed from nothing are the Decad: these are seen in the fingers of the hands, five on one, five on the other, and over them is the Covenant by voice spiritual, and the rite of Circumcision, corporeal (as of Abraham). 4. Ten are the numbers of the ineffable Sephiroth, ten and not nine, ten and not eleven. Learn this wisdom, and be wise in the understanding of it, investigate these numbers, and draw knowledge from them, fix the design in its purity, and pass from it to its Creator seated on his throne. 5. These Ten Numbers, beyond the Infinite one, have the boundless realms, boundless origin and end, an abyss of good and one of evil, boundless height and depth, East and West, North and South, and the one only God and king, faithful forever seated on his throne, shall rule over all, forever and ever. 6. These ten Sephiroth which are ineffable, whose appearance is like scintillating flames, have no end but are infinite. The word of God is in them as they burst forth, and as they return; they obey the divine command, rushing along as a whirlwind, returning to prostrate themselves at his throne….”
On top of that, I believe in the Trinity and I find it interesting that Christianity is the only faith that has a definition of God that not only occupies each of the three dimensions of my corporeal reality, but is master of each dimension. God is omniscience, He is all knowing, He contains all data, all information; just as the textbook definition of the First Dimension does. God is omnipresent, just as the textbook definition of the Second Dimension is. And He is omnipotent and through Him all things were created, just as declared in John 1-14. What was created? Our 3 Dimensional reality for sure, but also the additional dimensions of heaven, hell, purgatory, or whatever.
Speaking from a third dimension perspective, there is this 3 dimensions + the 7 additional energy electron shells of an atom, or the 7 heavens of Islam, or the 7 heavens of the Hindu (although this is a more complicated one to explain).
Omniscience -- God the Father – whom man can never see
Omnipresent -- God the Spirit, Holy Spirit
Omnipotent -- God the Word, Christ, through whom all thing were created.
In my view of the Trinity, any time man interacts with God in the flesh it is Christ. (i.e. Melchezadek and Abraham, or Enoch in the heavens who required heaven 8, 9, & 10 to meet with God)
My evidence comes from across the entire span of human history, from 100s of years of Jewish Rabbinic commentary, from the science of Chemistry, and Physics, from the other Abrahamic religion – Islam, and is supported in so many ways from scripture itself. 10 Hebrew words for heaven, 10 Hebrew words for God, as well as, Christ’s claims about the Trinity.
If you believe that the singularity is real; then please explain what compressed all the nothingness into the singularity, and how nothingness can have density, and what this singularity existed in, as space did not exist. Please show me the empirical evidence for this belief.
I am a multidimensionalist.
No one has ever suggested that reality began out of nothingness. Something was not created from nothing. God fattened what was already there – himself.
And no one ever suggested that it was compressed into the original singularity. Quite the opposite, the singularity spread Himself out.
Where was this singularity, space, time, wherever – I do not care because - Job 36:26 (NIV) How great is God, beyond our understanding! It is beyond our understanding. Scriptures story begins with God and moves forward. So do I.
I don’t know if you can call it empirical, but there is certainly a preponderance of evidence suggesting 10 dimensions of space and one of time. The most ancient text on this planet, the Book of Enoch, tells of 10 heavens. The Zohar speaks of 10 heavens in one section and of 10 celestial spheres in another. The Apostle Paul writes of 10 heavens. The most current science theory, super-string, the only science that accurately predicts the behavior of sub-atomic particles in a super collider, suggests 10 dimensions.
From the Jewish Kabbalah, THE BOOK OF CREATION 1:2. “Ten are the numbers, as are the Sephiroth, (the 10 attributes/emanations in Kabbalah through which God created the world and/or manifests Himself) …(talks about the 22 letters of the Hebrew alphabet) 3. The ten numbers formed from nothing are the Decad: these are seen in the fingers of the hands, five on one, five on the other, and over them is the Covenant by voice spiritual, and the rite of Circumcision, corporeal (as of Abraham). 4. Ten are the numbers of the ineffable Sephiroth, ten and not nine, ten and not eleven. Learn this wisdom, and be wise in the understanding of it, investigate these numbers, and draw knowledge from them, fix the design in its purity, and pass from it to its Creator seated on his throne. 5. These Ten Numbers, beyond the Infinite one, have the boundless realms, boundless origin and end, an abyss of good and one of evil, boundless height and depth, East and West, North and South, and the one only God and king, faithful forever seated on his throne, shall rule over all, forever and ever. 6. These ten Sephiroth which are ineffable, whose appearance is like scintillating flames, have no end but are infinite. The word of God is in them as they burst forth, and as they return; they obey the divine command, rushing along as a whirlwind, returning to prostrate themselves at his throne….”
On top of that, I believe in the Trinity and I find it interesting that Christianity is the only faith that has a definition of God that not only occupies each of the three dimensions of my corporeal reality, but is master of each dimension. God is omniscience, He is all knowing, He contains all data, all information; just as the textbook definition of the First Dimension does. God is omnipresent, just as the textbook definition of the Second Dimension is. And He is omnipotent and through Him all things were created, just as declared in John 1-14. What was created? Our 3 Dimensional reality for sure, but also the additional dimensions of heaven, hell, purgatory, or whatever.
Speaking from a third dimension perspective, there is this 3 dimensions + the 7 additional energy electron shells of an atom, or the 7 heavens of Islam, or the 7 heavens of the Hindu (although this is a more complicated one to explain).
Omniscience -- God the Father – whom man can never see
Omnipresent -- God the Spirit, Holy Spirit
Omnipotent -- God the Word, Christ, through whom all thing were created.
In my view of the Trinity, any time man interacts with God in the flesh it is Christ. (i.e. Melchezadek and Abraham, or Enoch in the heavens who required heaven 8, 9, & 10 to meet with God)
My evidence comes from across the entire span of human history, from 100s of years of Jewish Rabbinic commentary, from the science of Chemistry, and Physics, from the other Abrahamic religion – Islam, and is supported in so many ways from scripture itself. 10 Hebrew words for heaven, 10 Hebrew words for God, as well as, Christ’s claims about the Trinity.